obey908
Mar 14, 01:21 PM
There is already a post your setup thread
chrisleavens
Oct 11, 11:28 AM
Well you talk about fairness, I don't think its fair that your studies are funded by the government and mine are not, even though I will be working directly for the government in the very near future. And, its not fair to me that you may very well benefit directly from my work in several ways. For example, say you come to America for a holiday, and you are mugged. It would be my job to help get the guy responsible for your mugging and to be able to put you back to your position before you were mugged, at no cost to you because you are not an American citizen and don't pay taxes. So, I feel toat you owe me money because that would be fair. I know i'm making money as an attorney, but so is Loren on the many, many other projects he has going on for him. Its only fair that we are both compensated justly for everything we do, right? Just like you would want to be compensated by me if I came to your country and needed medical help, it would be nothing out of my pocket, and that doesn't seem fair to you personally doing something without just compensation.
My point is, each of us has our own lives to support, because really when it comes down to it, no one else is giving us a free ride...well except for you and thats not really fair. Well then to educate you, in America, no one gets a free ride. We're all for ourselves here, and then we have to pay taxes up the ass for the people on welfare who mooch off of the welfare system without really doing anything. No ones gonna help me with my law school loans even though the work I am doing will benefit many, many people. I will get a small government salary (criminal prosecutors do not make a lot of money at all, thats why so many attorneys try to go to private practices and big law firms, to make that 6 or 7 figure income). Does that seem fair? No.
Loren is gonna be ok, whether he had charged for Tweetie 2 or not. He has many other things going on, many other products, and he gets paid for those lectures he does. The guys who created youtube didn't charge people to access the videos hosted on their site for free, or charge people each time they updated their servers and software, yet they are rolling in the dough. In America, we thrive on customer satisfaction. I personally do not feel Loren did enough with Tweetie 1 in satisfying his customers before going ahead and charging full price for an "update." And his excuse that Apple didn't provide an upgrade path is a cop out. I read his tweet on the decision; he did it because he "had the balls to do it." He should at least go back to Tweetie 1 and upgrade that as much as possible until he can't anymore. He stated that he wanted to do things to Tweetie that were impossible to do without rewriting the app from scratch. Thats fine, but you can't leave your old customers out in the cold like he did. People paid for Tweetie 1 without knowing that Loren would be pulling this stunt off. Thats not fair to them, they deserve to be satisfied, they paid a fair amount and got ditched, bamboozled, baited and switched. If he wants to justify charging again, then he needs to go back to Tweetie 1 and fix it up as much as possible to satisfy everyone. THAT would be fair. I really hope he sees this too. Its not unprecedented; Microsoft kept XP updated because people didn't want to move to Vista, same with Office 2003 to 2007. Upgrading to Tweetie 2 means you lose out on themes, which were important to many people. Theres no push on Tweetie 2, so those with Tweetie 1 aren't missing out on too much. I think now that Loren has double the income (they haven't taken Tweetie 1 off the app store), he now has sufficient funds to keep Tweetie 1 alive with newer features and updates, until he can't go any farther with the Tweetie 1 code. No free rides for Loren if there are no free rides for the consumer. It means less time doing the university talks and interviews, and more time working for his money.
Wow. Not to be an ass or anything, but it seems like you've spent at least $3.00 of your time composing this retort.;)
Honestly, I shelled out the cash for the same reason Manic did, so I'm not going to repeat what he said because I think it's pretty pitch-perfect. But I will add:
Should I get the next Radiohead album for free since I paid for "In Rainbows?" Should I get free admission to the next Batman movie because I paid to see the last one? They're all new works, with new money and time put into them, just like Tweetie 2, so we pay for them anew, regardless of how many other projects the creators have going on, how financially OK they are, or how good or bad the antecedent was. Oh, and there was a big old warning on the Tweetie 1 entry warning potential buyers that 2 was just around the corner. Don't know how long it was there, but it was there.
My point is, each of us has our own lives to support, because really when it comes down to it, no one else is giving us a free ride...well except for you and thats not really fair. Well then to educate you, in America, no one gets a free ride. We're all for ourselves here, and then we have to pay taxes up the ass for the people on welfare who mooch off of the welfare system without really doing anything. No ones gonna help me with my law school loans even though the work I am doing will benefit many, many people. I will get a small government salary (criminal prosecutors do not make a lot of money at all, thats why so many attorneys try to go to private practices and big law firms, to make that 6 or 7 figure income). Does that seem fair? No.
Loren is gonna be ok, whether he had charged for Tweetie 2 or not. He has many other things going on, many other products, and he gets paid for those lectures he does. The guys who created youtube didn't charge people to access the videos hosted on their site for free, or charge people each time they updated their servers and software, yet they are rolling in the dough. In America, we thrive on customer satisfaction. I personally do not feel Loren did enough with Tweetie 1 in satisfying his customers before going ahead and charging full price for an "update." And his excuse that Apple didn't provide an upgrade path is a cop out. I read his tweet on the decision; he did it because he "had the balls to do it." He should at least go back to Tweetie 1 and upgrade that as much as possible until he can't anymore. He stated that he wanted to do things to Tweetie that were impossible to do without rewriting the app from scratch. Thats fine, but you can't leave your old customers out in the cold like he did. People paid for Tweetie 1 without knowing that Loren would be pulling this stunt off. Thats not fair to them, they deserve to be satisfied, they paid a fair amount and got ditched, bamboozled, baited and switched. If he wants to justify charging again, then he needs to go back to Tweetie 1 and fix it up as much as possible to satisfy everyone. THAT would be fair. I really hope he sees this too. Its not unprecedented; Microsoft kept XP updated because people didn't want to move to Vista, same with Office 2003 to 2007. Upgrading to Tweetie 2 means you lose out on themes, which were important to many people. Theres no push on Tweetie 2, so those with Tweetie 1 aren't missing out on too much. I think now that Loren has double the income (they haven't taken Tweetie 1 off the app store), he now has sufficient funds to keep Tweetie 1 alive with newer features and updates, until he can't go any farther with the Tweetie 1 code. No free rides for Loren if there are no free rides for the consumer. It means less time doing the university talks and interviews, and more time working for his money.
Wow. Not to be an ass or anything, but it seems like you've spent at least $3.00 of your time composing this retort.;)
Honestly, I shelled out the cash for the same reason Manic did, so I'm not going to repeat what he said because I think it's pretty pitch-perfect. But I will add:
Should I get the next Radiohead album for free since I paid for "In Rainbows?" Should I get free admission to the next Batman movie because I paid to see the last one? They're all new works, with new money and time put into them, just like Tweetie 2, so we pay for them anew, regardless of how many other projects the creators have going on, how financially OK they are, or how good or bad the antecedent was. Oh, and there was a big old warning on the Tweetie 1 entry warning potential buyers that 2 was just around the corner. Don't know how long it was there, but it was there.
Deefuzz
Dec 2, 11:43 PM
Using this one right now, pumped for the movie and can't find any of my Christmas themed wallpapers right now.
Pillar
Oct 6, 11:15 AM
http://cl.ly/91b6aabf4501b2bf8bd6/content
mine for the month so far, just a wallpaper change.:)
smooth and relaxing desktop look
mine for the month so far, just a wallpaper change.:)
smooth and relaxing desktop look
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asphalt-proof
Apr 21, 07:50 AM
I disagree.
"The ONLY thing that matters in these kind of numbers is whether or not you can run an application on it." ---If it cant make a call its a different device PERIOD.
Those are all phones. By your logic, you prove my point. By your logic there are 10 different iOS devices , are you saying that THEY -"are not the same thing or related in any relative way" ?
PS : I love my iPhone but it is not my leader. Apple is cool but I don't jump up and down for any and every Pro- Apple story I can drink down. This chart is BS...IMHO
You are creating an artificial distinction between the products. It doesn't matter to a potential developer because they know if they release to iOS, it's going to go on ALL iOS products but maybe not all ALL android products. Certainly not to a tablet. This is what the article is focusing on. You are very narrowly looking at one data point. And even the construction of your argument for the interpretation of that data point is flaw when you decide to compare one manufacture of iOS to all manufacturer's of Android. If HTC can only sell only a few units of an Android phone, then they may drop the platform and look somewhere else for a better os. (Not saying HTC is in that boat. I know they sell a bunch... just a thought experiment). to only one feature.
It's NOT about Android phone vs. iphone and not iphone products. It's about platform vs. platform.
"The ONLY thing that matters in these kind of numbers is whether or not you can run an application on it." ---If it cant make a call its a different device PERIOD.
Those are all phones. By your logic, you prove my point. By your logic there are 10 different iOS devices , are you saying that THEY -"are not the same thing or related in any relative way" ?
PS : I love my iPhone but it is not my leader. Apple is cool but I don't jump up and down for any and every Pro- Apple story I can drink down. This chart is BS...IMHO
You are creating an artificial distinction between the products. It doesn't matter to a potential developer because they know if they release to iOS, it's going to go on ALL iOS products but maybe not all ALL android products. Certainly not to a tablet. This is what the article is focusing on. You are very narrowly looking at one data point. And even the construction of your argument for the interpretation of that data point is flaw when you decide to compare one manufacture of iOS to all manufacturer's of Android. If HTC can only sell only a few units of an Android phone, then they may drop the platform and look somewhere else for a better os. (Not saying HTC is in that boat. I know they sell a bunch... just a thought experiment). to only one feature.
It's NOT about Android phone vs. iphone and not iphone products. It's about platform vs. platform.
IgnatiusTheKing
Aug 4, 06:58 AM
I've no idea what y'all are talking about, but it sounds entertaining. Care to share a link?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=980290
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=980290
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Maccus Aurelius
Nov 20, 02:33 PM
Hmmm. I think I figured this one out. It's Apple. Apple makes Macs. All new Macs have Airport. Macs are plugged into the Internet. iPhones are made by Apple. Apple controls the default settings on Mac OS X.
"If you're near a Mac your calls are free."
How 'bout them Apples?
Sweet. But, there's more to just piggybacking on your mac's airport connection to make calls. I think more has to be done to make this networking possible.
"If you're near a Mac your calls are free."
How 'bout them Apples?
Sweet. But, there's more to just piggybacking on your mac's airport connection to make calls. I think more has to be done to make this networking possible.
SmugMac
Oct 9, 10:10 PM
Its a nice app, but way overrated.
I think so too. I find that Twitterrific is a more polished better looking app than Tweetie 2.0 - I have buyers remorse.
I think so too. I find that Twitterrific is a more polished better looking app than Tweetie 2.0 - I have buyers remorse.
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Snowy_River
Oct 31, 01:39 PM
...Oooooooooh but what about people who travel or backpack for a long trip without a charging opportunity. Maybe they need more charge time? Does anyone listen to headphones while hiking? ...
They do have extra power packs for the various iPods. While they aren't out for the new Shuffle yet, I have little doubt that they will be coming. Also, I wouldn't be too surprised to find that it wasn't too difficult to rig something up on your own, if you're at least a little bit tech savvy.
They do have extra power packs for the various iPods. While they aren't out for the new Shuffle yet, I have little doubt that they will be coming. Also, I wouldn't be too surprised to find that it wasn't too difficult to rig something up on your own, if you're at least a little bit tech savvy.
sockeatingdryer
Oct 18, 08:32 PM
Awesome! Looks like a stable version this time around!
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a104375
Jun 28, 09:42 PM
okay i have decided that price does not matter and have edited the original post so feel free to offer whatever you have
DrakkenWar
Apr 19, 12:23 AM
Crap, doing too many things at once. I know it is not mac is what is should have said.... dangit
Thought I would take a pic of my other production box, being the G5 is busy ripping a movie with handbrake! Hope I don't offend!
~Drake
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Sent from sparky Dual Athlon AMD x215/4gb/Mint 10.1 Debian
Thought I would take a pic of my other production box, being the G5 is busy ripping a movie with handbrake! Hope I don't offend!
~Drake
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Sent from sparky Dual Athlon AMD x215/4gb/Mint 10.1 Debian
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Huntn
May 5, 11:09 AM
So, what do you call, and how do we handle the individual(s)who planned, and helped to plan the death of 3,000 + individuals on 9/11, the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole, the Bali nightclub bombings, and who knows how many more acts of terrorism?
Can you honestly sit there and tell me that when we have in custody a high profile leader such as K.S.M. who has intricate, first hand knowledge of a terrorist organization that we should not do all that we can to obtain as much information from this person as possible? I suppose your thinking (and those of many others here) is that he should have been given a trial by jury, sent to prison, and that we had no right to try and obtain information from him?
Do you want to enjoy individual civil liberties, known as "rights" or are you willing to live in a police state to ensure your safety? Police states are good for the security of the state and those in power, but individuals are less secure.
Can you honestly sit there and tell me that when we have in custody a high profile leader such as K.S.M. who has intricate, first hand knowledge of a terrorist organization that we should not do all that we can to obtain as much information from this person as possible? I suppose your thinking (and those of many others here) is that he should have been given a trial by jury, sent to prison, and that we had no right to try and obtain information from him?
Do you want to enjoy individual civil liberties, known as "rights" or are you willing to live in a police state to ensure your safety? Police states are good for the security of the state and those in power, but individuals are less secure.
Messy
Oct 6, 06:40 AM
I really like that, gonna go make myself a version of this now! :)
Hehe yea someone posted it in another thread, its a tshirt on threadless or something.
Got it on the work PC now too. :)
Hehe yea someone posted it in another thread, its a tshirt on threadless or something.
Got it on the work PC now too. :)
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Nicholas.C
Sep 1, 02:02 PM
anyone up for a meet up on the 16th to get the iphone?
pm me :)
OR BEDFORD.
pm me :)
OR BEDFORD.
CaptMurdock
Dec 3, 08:48 PM
Mine for this Month, Last one of the year!!
All you want for Christmas...?
All you want for Christmas...?
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SummerBreeze
Sep 24, 05:03 PM
When I turned 18, I did what I wanted to do, but when I was at home I told my parents where I was going to go. Not necessairly "Hey, I'm gonna try out these new tips I read about in Cosmo" but where I was going and when I would be home. I figured that I was in charge of myself, but I should do the common courtesy of letting my parents know what was going on in my life.
cvaldes
Apr 7, 09:26 AM
Why all the negatives? Patches are a good thing.
There are a lot of flame-baiting haters and sniveling little whiners in this forum. And I mean a lot.
There are a lot of flame-baiting haters and sniveling little whiners in this forum. And I mean a lot.
mplaisance
Apr 20, 05:13 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/8H7)
Cheaper does not always win!! Don't insult consumers:)
Cheaper does not always win!! Don't insult consumers:)
munkle
Nov 10, 12:38 PM
Actually you can try it for free and it's fully functional as long as you only have 25 items in your library.
Having a free trial doesn't make it a free app, and crippled software is just that. No big deal, was just pointing out the title of the thread.
Having a free trial doesn't make it a free app, and crippled software is just that. No big deal, was just pointing out the title of the thread.
MisterMe
Apr 26, 08:43 AM
MacOS X is not a single-tasking OS. What makes you think that Word is a problem?
dantastic
May 7, 03:41 AM
Can you explain a bit more what you mean by button detection within button detection?
What is it you're trying to achieve?
What is it you're trying to achieve?
spyderracer393
Oct 31, 09:03 PM
Yeah got my hands on one today, pretty cool little guy. We can't sell them till Friday though. We have about 150 in stock in our warehouse. They are smaller then I originally thought.
do you work in an Apple store?
do you work in an Apple store?
GGJstudios
Dec 22, 09:28 AM
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